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75gr + stag 3G = perfection
« on: June 03, 2013, 11:58:11 PM »

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Tweked my 75gr load after shooting Saturday.  Had some more velocity to gain, so I bumped the load up and made 500 75gr bullets for the longer range ironman targets...

Ran out to Nampa tonight real quick to paper and get some dope,,,

50 yd was right on, and 200yd was .5 mil high. But made this group



Almost a .5 MOA group at 200yds...love it,

brought the scope down 4/10 of a mil, dialed the dope for 550 which is the far berm, picked out a rock and had big D watch it as I shot it, dead on.... My rifle loves 75gr pills...can't wait till Thursday!

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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2013, 06:22:57 AM »

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Nice, I see you found some love with the RL15.  ;)

I found it better than varget in .223 with 69's and up.

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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2013, 07:53:57 AM »

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Yes, the RL15 is nice... thanks for the tip!

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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2013, 07:56:03 AM »

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Nice shooting!!

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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2013, 10:34:04 AM »

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Nice shooting!!!

You now have no excuses for not wrecking face at Ironman  :P (at least with your rifle)

So that AR you have is the Stag 3g? Any modifications to it or it's straight on the shelf?

Edit; So the far berm is 550 yards. Funny, when I was out there Sunday I was wish-washing back and forth between 500 and 600, I couldn't decide which it was. No fair of them to put it in the middle.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2013, 10:41:42 AM »

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Bid D is on paper, and shooting good... no case separations last night.

My Stag is stock except for a couple of things...

Compensator is a Thunder Comp... any good comp will work, the factory one is over comped and is a common observation from those that have the 3G

I use the Rainier Arms Raptor charging handle and installed a BAD lever...

Mine also came with the EFX fixed stock instead of the magpul (screw up at shipping, but I prefer it on this gun

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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2013, 01:15:50 PM »

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Edit; So the far berm is 550 yards. Funny, when I was out there Sunday I was wish-washing back and forth between 500 and 600, I couldn't decide which it was. No fair of them to put it in the middle.


The berms are metric at the Main Rifle Line at Parma

so in meters...
50
100
150
200
300
400
500
and by a fluke the top gong is 650


and in yards(rounded)
55
110
165
220
330
440
550
710



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It's completely legal.   The only problem is that it puts you into FR Class (Full Retard), and you might be the only one in the entire country running FR.   Of course, it would set you up for 1st Place in your class, everytime you shoot. 
Big D

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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2013, 01:19:28 PM »

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LM.45,
did you chrony them?

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It's completely legal.   The only problem is that it puts you into FR Class (Full Retard), and you might be the only one in the entire country running FR.   Of course, it would set you up for 1st Place in your class, everytime you shoot. 
Big D

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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2013, 01:39:18 PM »

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The berms are metric at the Main Rifle Line at Parma


We were in Nampa  ;D

I did not chrono, which is why I trued at the farthest berm I could shoot at for my data...

The drops work nicely however...

50/200 - 0
100 - .5 mil
300 - 1 mil
400 - 2 mil
500 - 3.5 mil

Rounded but close enough to hit still with holdovers on the reticle.

With as much shooting as I've done at long range, I feel pretty confident truing my data with my dope.

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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2013, 02:37:10 PM »

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Your 100 yard is .5 high, isn't it?

My data for a 200 yard zero shows me at .52 high at 100 yards. Then is lockstep with your (rounded) data out to 500. But my off the shelf PMC XTac's don't shoot nearly the group yours do.

Can't wait to join the reloading ranks. That looks like a very nice performing round. And it delivers a crap ton more foot pounds of energy than a 55grain bullet. Not sure if that translates on spinners or not.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2013, 02:43:17 PM »

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After watching Nealio spin the spinner with his 75gr in about 3 shots, vs a bunch of guys taking way more than that... yeah... spinners are the main reason I went to the 75gr...

And now that I'm shooting it... the accuracy with it may just make me stay their for anything out side 100 to 200 yds...

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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2013, 02:46:01 PM »

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Your 100 yard is .5 high, isn't it?

My data for a 200 yard zero shows me at .52 high at 100 yards. Then is lockstep with your (rounded) data out to 500. But my off the shelf PMC XTac's don't shoot nearly the group yours do.

Can't wait to join the reloading ranks. That looks like a very nice performing round. And it delivers a crap ton more foot pounds of energy than a 55grain bullet. Not sure if that translates on spinners or not.

Hornady makes a 75gr factory load, Black Hills makes a 77gr factory load also that shoot pretty well.

Heavier bullets make a noticable diff on the spinner and the MGM Flash Targets, I think
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It's completely legal.   The only problem is that it puts you into FR Class (Full Retard), and you might be the only one in the entire country running FR.   Of course, it would set you up for 1st Place in your class, everytime you shoot. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2013, 02:46:58 PM »

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We were in Nampa  ;D




pffft, details

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It's completely legal.   The only problem is that it puts you into FR Class (Full Retard), and you might be the only one in the entire country running FR.   Of course, it would set you up for 1st Place in your class, everytime you shoot. 
Big D

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50/200 - 0
100 - .5 mil
300 - 1 mil
400 - 2 mil
500 - 3.5 mil

Rounded but close enough to hit still with holdovers on the reticle.

With as much shooting as I've done at long range, I feel pretty confident truing my data with my dope.

Did you help your buddy with his holds on his 1-6 MOA scope?
This the drop for his reticle on 6 power.


Main crosshair zeroed 200 yards
Hashmark Distance Bullet Drop
1st 300 Yards 7.5 Inches
2nd 400 Yards 23.5 Inches
3rd 500 Yards 50 Inches
4th 600 Yards 92 Inches
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2013, 03:17:53 PM »

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Hornady makes a 75gr factory load, Black Hills makes a 77gr factory load also that shoot pretty well.

Heavier bullets make a noticable diff on the spinner and the MGM Flash Targets, I think

Good to know. I'll keep an eye out for them.

The downside being of course, that beggars can't be choosers. It's damn hard to find any decent .223 rounds out there. And when you do, it's going for top dollar.

I've decided there are some places that I absolutely refuse to buy from based on their activities and pricing in this market. I understand prices are up, but that doesn't mean you have to gouge the sh!t out of the consumer. I was in a shop a few days ago that had a 500 round brick of .22's for $99. Tons of it in fact. I won't outright name and shame, but it rhymes with "Cliff's". They have a lot of ammo in stock, but it's beyond ludicrous. They lost me as a customer forever.  >:(

I can't wait to get a reloader ....
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Did you help your buddy with his holds on his 1-6 MOA scope?
This the drop for his reticle on 6 power.





what scope is this?

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It's completely legal.   The only problem is that it puts you into FR Class (Full Retard), and you might be the only one in the entire country running FR.   Of course, it would set you up for 1st Place in your class, everytime you shoot. 
Big D

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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2013, 03:28:20 PM »

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Good to know. I'll keep an eye out for them.

Cabelas carries both
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It's completely legal.   The only problem is that it puts you into FR Class (Full Retard), and you might be the only one in the entire country running FR.   Of course, it would set you up for 1st Place in your class, everytime you shoot. 
Big D

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Did you help your buddy with his holds on his 1-6 MOA scope?
This the drop for his reticle on 6 power.


Main crosshair zeroed 200 yards
Hashmark Distance Bullet Drop
1st 300 Yards 7.5 Inches
2nd 400 Yards 23.5 Inches
3rd 500 Yards 50 Inches
4th 600 Yards 92 Inches

We didn't have that info, but we did true him up on the same spot, so he knows where in his reticle to hold to hit the 550... he will have to do the math on his crosshair to get it working... but I think he was just about on the 4th crosshair or was it the 3rd to hit at 550...

I have to say, I'm liking the SS 1-6 more and more, with the caveat that I am use to looking at a scope reticle that has mil hash marks in it... I don't find all those little hash marks to be too busy, and I rather like it... and it gives me the ability to refine my target aim more than the simple reticle like on the Vortex 1-6...

That may be my next scope purchase to upgrade the 3 gun rifle...

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what scope is this?

Dan has the Vortex 1-6 HD...

I use the Vortex 1-4 PST Mrad

and after Saturday playing with JMack's SS 1-6HD I'm liking it.
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-HD-1-6x24-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P53845.aspx

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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2013, 05:00:28 PM »

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Dan has the Vortex 1-6 HD...

I use the Vortex 1-4 PST Mrad

and after Saturday playing with JMack's SS 1-6HD I'm liking it.
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-HD-1-6x24-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P53845.aspx


at that price, you might check this out also
the reticle is way easier
http://swfa.com/Leupold-15-5x20-Mark-4-MRT-30mm-Riflescope-P47635.aspx


How much is that in Mils? - JMack
March 2, 2013


It's completely legal.   The only problem is that it puts you into FR Class (Full Retard), and you might be the only one in the entire country running FR.   Of course, it would set you up for 1st Place in your class, everytime you shoot. 
Big D