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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2016, 01:00:32 PM »

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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2016, 01:13:48 PM »

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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2016, 03:35:02 PM »

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I think that PCC is best served at a rifle match.
Our current USPSA matches will require rule changes, as well as changes to stage design to accommodate rifles.

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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2016, 03:46:22 PM »

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I think that PCC is best served at a rifle match.
Our current USPSA matches will require rule changes, as well as changes to stage design to accommodate rifles.

Please don't point your rifle at me.


Why do you think people will point rifles at you?
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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2016, 03:50:03 PM »

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I think that PCC is best served at a rifle match.
Our current USPSA matches will require rule changes, as well as changes to stage design to accommodate rifles.

Please don't point your rifle at me.
There aren't any matches that specifically cater to this type of firearm. 3gun? sure, right up to the point where we start shooting past 100yds. Almost every 3gun match we shoot at Parma has at least one long range stage, usually putting targets out past 400yds. There is a sanctioning body called US Carbine Association but no one has taken the time to start a local match based on their rule set. I'm pretty sure that USPSA has a multi-gun rule set in place, it's just a matter of MDs being willing to accommodate the shooters who want to branch out a little.

Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2016, 05:24:19 PM »

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-What if nothing changed for the pistol shooters? 

-What if we kept designing and shooting the same kind of stages that we do now?

-What if we kept it to just shoot one gun per match like we do now? 

-What if the only changes made in the WSB were to accommodate PCC start position, i.e. Can start with gun in hand if facing down range, if uprange start is required then the PCC is staged on a table downrange of shooter, if hands on X's are required in the WSB the start for PCC would be muzzle touching X, etc. 

-What if we require chamber flags at ULASC and bagging between stages? 

What then? 
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Plan B should not be Plan A twice as hard.

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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2016, 07:57:06 PM »

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-What if nothing changed for the pistol shooters? 

-What if we kept designing and shooting the same kind of stages that we do now?

-What if we kept it to just shoot one gun per match like we do now? 

-What if the only changes made in the WSB were to accommodate PCC start position, i.e. Can start with gun in hand if facing down range, if uprange start is required then the PCC is staged on a table downrange of shooter, if hands on X's are required in the WSB the start for PCC would be muzzle touching X, etc. 

-What if we require chamber flags at ULASC and bagging between stages? 

What then?

Sounds like a living nightmare.

Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2016, 07:59:19 PM »

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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2016, 08:25:11 PM »

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Too beaucoup.
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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2016, 08:42:32 PM »

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Evans, why don't you bring one on Saturday for a trial run? See how it goes.

Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2016, 10:20:57 PM »

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Can't make it this weekend.  Too beaucoup. 
Hope is a lousy strategy, but sometimes it is good tactics. 

Plan B should not be Plan A twice as hard.

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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2016, 12:03:19 PM »

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I think that PCC is best served at a rifle match.
Our current USPSA matches will require rule changes, as well as changes to stage design to accommodate rifles.

Please don't point your rifle at me.

You should just save us all the time and cut and paste your Enos arguments here. Don't forget to include the parts where you will call the cops.
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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2016, 05:46:12 PM »

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Too beaucoup. 
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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2016, 07:23:56 PM »

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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2016, 07:43:53 PM »

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-What if nothing changed for the pistol shooters? 

-What if we kept designing and shooting the same kind of stages that we do now?

-What if we kept it to just shoot one gun per match like we do now? 

-What if the only changes made in the WSB were to accommodate PCC start position, i.e. Can start with gun in hand if facing down range, if uprange start is required then the PCC is staged on a table downrange of shooter, if hands on X's are required in the WSB the start for PCC would be muzzle touching X, etc. 

-What if we require chamber flags at ULASC and bagging between stages? 

What then?


I really don't understand the concerns that people have.   I think it sounds like fun and many of the concerns come from people that don't shoot 3Gun, so it would seem there is some apprehension based in fear of the unknown more than anything.   The 180 rule is the 180 rule.   You break it, you go home.   Safety first still applies.   Based on Mike's video, I don't see how it has to change anything for current shooters.   I'm not a fan of people shooting two divisions, but other than that, I'm all for it.   One of the dumbest complaints I've heard is that Pistol shooters will be competing against rifle shooters and that it's not fair.   Boo Freaking Hoo!  That's just plain dumb.    Sounds like a bunch of scared pistol shooters that only look at the overall standings to me.    Nothing has to change for the current shooters.    Let's embrace this.  It could be great for the sport.   Or.... We could whine like a bunch of IDPA shooters and "keep those damn PCC Gamers from ruining our sport!"

Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2016, 08:11:47 PM »

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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2016, 08:33:10 PM »

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Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2016, 02:39:52 PM »

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Dan just wants a new gun.

True Dat!  Unlike you though, I don't need permission to buy it.   Besides, posting pistol reloads is WAY overdone.   PCC reloads though?  I could be a real trailblazer there.   :o

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« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2016, 05:12:34 PM »

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Dan just wants a new gun.

Dan not only wants a new gun, he wants us all to have new guns.  I haven't dared show up at the shop since this whole thing got started for fear I will be subjected to his speech about the virtues of the PCC and how badly I need to buy one if I want to fit in with the cool kids.

Re: PCC in USPSA...Good idea or fail?
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2016, 05:54:35 PM »

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Dan not only wants a new gun, he wants us all to have new guns.  I haven't dared show up at the shop since this whole thing got started for fear I will be subjected to his speech about the virtues of the PCC and how badly I need to buy one if I want to fit in with the cool kids.


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