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What is the heat for an AR15 trigger?
« on: March 10, 2013, 07:21:09 PM »

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Thinking about a trigger upgrade.

I've got a Rock River Nat'l Match, which is a pretty good trigger for the $, way better than the Armalite NM.

But looking for an upgrade, and probably single stage



Geiselle
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Something else?

any reccomendations?


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Re: What is the heat for an AR15 trigger?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2013, 07:32:12 PM »

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For 3 gun,

JP or Geiselle... it will probably come down to personal preference... I like the S3G with the Flat trigger... so if you want one with a curved trigger, by the flat and I"ll trade you.  :D

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2013, 07:45:04 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2013, 07:48:43 PM »

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Re: What is the heat for an AR15 trigger?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2013, 08:02:22 PM »

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In my opinion the rock river is pretty good.  I have both a rock river and a JP.  While the JP is better, I dont think it would improve your shooting near as much as $150 worth of ammo.

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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2013, 08:14:02 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2013, 08:29:36 PM »

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Re: What is the heat for an AR15 trigger?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2013, 09:10:18 PM »

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starting to sound like a broken record around here. i use the jp in my 308. just the trigger, not the whole kit with pins and hammer. pull is good and i feel like i only spent ~$120 on it.

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2013, 09:16:23 PM »

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J Mack used to have a Timney in one of his rifles and I thought it was the best trigger I had ever felt in an AR . He is now running a JP-EZ so I can only assume its at least as good as the Timney ;)

I have run the JP springs which were pretty good for a cheap down and dirty trigger kit as well as an early Jard and Geiselle 3 gun trigger . To be honest I didn't think the Jard or Geiselle were any better than the spring kit from JP as well as some stoning of the sear . I want a zero take up , crisp 3.5# or less trigger in my rifle . If I can't get rid of the take up I am not interested .

Maybe when we have the scope , suppressor test day anyone bringing an AR can label their rifles with what trigger they are running .
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2013, 09:19:28 PM »

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Jard, by far the best and only $140


I have 2 Jards,for the price I LIKE ;D
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2013, 09:40:58 PM »

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I have four Geissele triggers. One Super 3gun, one SD-E and two of the SSA's. They are all non-adjustable and use full power hammer springs. I haven't had an issue with any of them.


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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2013, 09:43:17 PM »

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I want a zero take up , crisp 3.5# or less trigger in my rifle .

You just described the Jard...?

The Jard is like the Knight's Armament, where the sear is on the back of the hammer, not by the pivot point like mil-spec.  To me its a better system for making smooth, crisp trigger pulls...

KAC:


Jard:


JP:


I think Shearer said it best when he said "if you want your AR to feel like a Glock trigger, get the Geiselle".  Which is NOT a knock on the Geiselle triggers, they just have that "non crisp" feel like a worked over Glock trigger.  Which if you are shooting a Glock, would be perfect.  If you're shooting a hammer pistol, then I would go JP or Jard (well I'd go Jard, but JP isn't a bad choice either).
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Re: What is the heat for an AR15 trigger?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2013, 09:53:48 PM »

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You just described the Jard...?

The Jard is like the Knight's Armament, where the sear is on the back of the hammer, not by the pivot point like mil-spec.  To me its a better system for making smooth, crisp trigger pulls...

KAC:


Jard:


JP:


I think Shearer said it best when he said "if you want your AR to feel like a Glock trigger, get the Geiselle".  Which is NOT a knock on the Geiselle triggers, they just have that "non crisp" feel like a worked over Glock trigger.  Which if you are shooting a Glock, would be perfect.  If you're shooting a hammer pistol, then I would go JP or Jard (well I'd go Jard, but JP isn't a bad choice either).

Is there a particular model of the Jard ? I purchased one years ago when they first came on the market and wasn't impressed .
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2013, 10:54:02 PM »

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Is there a particular model of the Jard ? I purchased one years ago when they first came on the market and wasn't impressed .

They have a basic, nonadjustable model and a fully adjustable model. Maybe you had the basic one? Or maybe it was a different design?


Anyone here is more than welcome to run a few rounds through my rifle to check the trigger.
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Re: What is the heat for an AR15 trigger?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2013, 06:43:32 AM »

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I think Shearer said it best when he said "if you want your AR to feel like a Glock trigger, get the Geiselle".  Which is NOT a knock on the Geiselle triggers, they just have that "non crisp" feel like a worked over Glock trigger.  Which if you are shooting a Glock, would be perfect.  If you're shooting a hammer pistol, then I would go JP or Jard (well I'd go Jard, but JP isn't a bad choice either).

I wonder which of the Geissele's he was refering to? I've found that the SD-E is very crisp just as designed. The SSA is a two stage nowhere near that of a glock, similar to the RRA but more crisp. The super 3 gun is very short in pull and reset much less than a glock. The three gun has a very odd break. It's hard to feel, more of a roll through.

The only Jard I've played with was an adjustable. It was nice but it eventually self adjusted so it had to go. Not a slam on the trigger, just a slam on adjustables.

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The Geissele S3G is a hybrid trigger... at least that's what they call it.

It is glass smooth on the short take up and then breaks very crisply. With use over time, it has just gotten smoother and smoother on my gun. After shooting it last season, I really enjoy it. When shooting at speed I don't notice the take up at all, and the short reset is very quick on doubles for close up hosing shots. When going out to range, the trigger is very predictable, and very easy to use as a precision trigger on the clock.

Now... not everyone likes that, but it's a trigger like no other out there, and if you haven't had a chance to run it, it's something you may want to try.

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We need to line up all the different triggers and let everyone go down the line and test em all, so we can all see back to back what they are like.
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I saw that on the 3 gun nation website, looked interesting... they they are wanting more testers let us know...I'm sure we put find a few guns to put them in and test  :P

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We need to line up all the different triggers and let everyone go down the line and test em all, so we can all see back to back what they are like.

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